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Why Repeat Customers Start With Better Ordering | Chat w/ Jeff Kopple

In This Episode

Interview Takeaways

  • Technology Helps Independents Compete With National Chains – Jeff Kopple believes great food isn’t enough anymore. Online ordering, mobile experiences, and digital convenience help independent restaurants meet the same customer expectations as the biggest pizza brands while keeping more orders direct.
  • Strong Partnerships Make Better Operators – From ChowNow simplifying online ordering to Pepsi supporting operations beyond beverage service, Kopple explains that the right partners don’t just sell products—they help restaurants solve problems, improve profitability, and serve guests more effectively.
  • Hospitality Is Still the Greatest Competitive Advantage – After more than 15 years in business, Kopple credits lasting success to repeat customers, long-tenured employees, and genuine relationships. Technology may make ordering easier, but it’s the conversations, consistency, and community that keep guests coming back.

Independent restaurants are no longer just competing with the pizza shop down the street.

They’re competing with national brands that have seamless online ordering, polished mobile apps, and digital experiences customers have come to expect. For many operators, the challenge isn’t making better food. It’s delivering the same convenience without sacrificing hospitality.

For Jeff Kopple, co-owner of Sicilian Pizza and Pasta in downtown Louisville, technology has become one of the biggest reasons his independent restaurant continues to thrive after more than 15 years in business.

From Paper Tickets to Digital Ordering

When Kopple and his brother opened Sicilian Pizza and Pasta in 2009, taking orders meant answering the phone, writing tickets by hand, and hoping nothing got lost before it reached the kitchen.

Looking back, he says investing in a modern point-of-sale system sooner would have changed everything.

“We were using an old school cash register,” Kopple said. “Taking orders over the phone, writing them on paper and tickets, and passing them to the back. Tickets getting lost,  anything you could think of going wrong.”

As online ordering became more important, the technology still created headaches. Setting up menus with hundreds of pizza modifiers took weeks, and the platform they relied on frequently crashed.

That changed after switching to ChowNow.

Kopple says the onboarding process took less than a week, and customers immediately noticed the difference.

“They have come in with their pickup orders and said, ‘Oh my gosh, it is night and day difference to what it used to be.'”

Creating Direct Relationships

Like many independent operators, Kopple resisted third-party delivery apps because of the fees.

Eventually, he realized customers expected to find restaurants wherever they preferred to order.

“You have to be on all the platforms,” he said.

Instead of viewing third-party ordering as the finish line, he uses it as an introduction.

Every pickup order includes a ChowNow card encouraging guests to order directly next time, where prices are lower and the restaurant keeps more of the sale.

For Kopple, the goal isn’t choosing between marketplaces and direct ordering. It’s using both to build lasting customer relationships while improving profitability.

Partnerships That Support Hospitality

Technology isn’t the only partnership Kopple credits for helping his business grow.

After briefly leaving Pepsi for another beverage supplier, he says the difference became obvious.

Whether it was solving delivery issues, providing promotional support, supplying pizza delivery bags, or simply being available when problems arose, Pepsi became the kind of operational partner every restaurant hopes to find.

“They have been awesome,” Kopple said. “Any time there’s an issue, you can reach out to your rep. You’re getting awesome customer service that is second to none.”

He’s now looking to expand that partnership even further by taking advantage of Pepsi’s Digital Labs resources alongside ChowNow as his catering business continues to grow.

Hospitality Still Comes First

Despite all the technology, Kopple believes the reason Sicilian Pizza and Pasta has survived while so many neighboring restaurants have disappeared has very little to do with software.

Some employees have been with the restaurant since opening day in 2009. Regular customers stop in not only for pizza, but for conversations about basketball, investing, family, and life.

“It’s not just coming in and making the pizza and getting them out the door,” Kopple said. “There’s a lot of people that come in, and we’ll have conversations.”

Technology makes ordering easier. Vendor partnerships make operations stronger.

But for Kopple, those tools only matter because they create more opportunities to do what independent restaurants have always done best: build relationships that keep customers coming back.

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About Cali BBQ Media

Digital Hospitality is an interview-based video podcast hosted by business owner Shawn P. Walchef (@shawnpwalchef) and produced by his Cali BBQ Media company. The weekly digital series explores the ways successful businesses and entrepreneurs have merged old and new with innovative digital strategies that harness the power of the Internet and social media. Shawn is the founder of Cali BBQ Media and creator of the Restaurant Influencers podcast on Entrepreneur Media.

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