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How An Emotional Connection Can Drive Customer Loyalty

In This Episode

Interview Takeaways

  • Hospitality Starts With Recognition – Bart Berkey believes great hospitality is not about luxury or perfection. It is about making people feel seen, valued, and acknowledged in small everyday moments.
  • Most People Don’t Put Themselves Out There – From podcasting to storytelling to personal branding, Berkey argues that growth comes from doing the uncomfortable things most people avoid because they fear judgment or failure.
  • Human Connection Still Matters In A Digital World – Even with AI, automation, and endless digital communication, Berkey believes personal interactions, phone calls, and genuine conversations are becoming even more valuable.

Most people want the results. Very few people want to do the uncomfortable part first.

That idea sits at the center of Bart Berkey’s philosophy and the company he built around it: Most People Don’t.

Before becoming a speaker, podcaster, and founder, Berkey spent 16 years inside Ritz-Carlton and Marriott International learning the kind of hospitality lessons that rarely show up on balance sheets. The biggest one was simple: people want to feel seen.

Not served. Not processed. Seen.

During his conversation on Digital Hospitality with Shawn Walchef, Berkey explained that many businesses misunderstand hospitality entirely. It is not about luxury. It is not about perfection. It is about recognition.

Everything Changed

One story from New York captured that better than anything else in the episode.

After finishing a speaking engagement, Berkey checked his phone and saw that he had been rejected for a new opportunity. The emotional swing hit hard. Minutes earlier, he had been on stage inspiring a room full of people. Now he was walking through Manhattan feeling defeated.

Then he saw a homeless man holding a sign that read: “I might as well be invisible.” Everything changed.

“As soon as I saw that, my worries were gone,” Berkey said.

Gratitude Stones

Berkey carries small gratitude stones in his pocket while traveling. He walked over to the man, handed him one, and told him, “I see you.”

“He didn’t want money,” Berkey explained. “He just wanted to be seen.”

That moment became a larger reflection on hospitality, leadership, and even content creation itself.

Berkey believes most people are afraid to put themselves out there. They worry nobody will listen to the podcast. Nobody will watch the video. Nobody will care about the story. But the businesses and leaders building real connection are usually the ones willing to do the uncomfortable work first.

“Most people don’t podcast,” Walchef joked during the interview. But that is exactly the point.

Berkey started podcasting three years ago and now has more than 200 episodes featuring founders, CEOs, hospitality leaders, and entrepreneurs. Not because every episode goes viral, but because storytelling creates relationships at scale.

What Is The ROI?

For Berkey, the ROI is not vanity metrics. It is knowledge, trust, and connection.

That same mindset applies to hospitality operators too.

At a time when so much communication happens through apps, texts, automation, and AI, Berkey argued that the small human moments matter even more. One of his simplest examples was also one of the strongest: pick up the phone.

“It’s easy to hide behind the keyboard,” he said. “But when you want to make a difference, do what most people don’t.”

In a business world obsessed with reach, efficiency, and scale, Berkey’s message feels surprisingly old-school.

People remember how you make them feel. And most people still just want to be seen.

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About Cali BBQ Media

Digital Hospitality is an interview-based video podcast hosted by business owner Shawn P. Walchef (@shawnpwalchef) and produced by his Cali BBQ Media company. The weekly digital series explores the ways successful businesses and entrepreneurs have merged old and new with innovative digital strategies that harness the power of the Internet and social media. Shawn is the founder of Cali BBQ Media and creator of the Restaurant Influencers podcast on Entrepreneur Media.

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